Over on TexasDarlin, Polarik says (via texasdarlin):
Look at the criss-cross lines that are to the left of CHILD’S NAME on both COLB’s — they do not line up at all.
I assume what is meant here is that the lines of the Michele COLB don’t line up with the lines of the Obama COLB. In which case, no, they don’t line up. They can’t quite line up because the pitch of the lines in the Obama COLB is somewhat greater than the pitch of the lines in the Michele COLB. In other words, the spacing between lines is different. The lines are spaced a little farther apart in the Obama COLB compared to the Michele COLB.
Plus, it is also darned suspicious that we can only see every other line clearly, and many more lines that cannot to be seen. We can see definite, tight crisscross lines on the other five COLB borders, but not on BHO.
Actually it’s not every other line that can be seen clearly, it’s every third line which cannot be seen clearly.
And I don’t see this in and of itself necessarily being suspicious, particularly given the grayish cast that exists within the boundaries of the border. The Obama border may have been printed using some sort of halftone overlay which could possibly account for the “wispy” nature of the lines, the gray cast over the border and the every third line phenomenon.
How exactly does one reproduce a COLB with jet black letters, jet black seal, white text on jet black bars, on top and bottom, but the BEST that we can see on the BHO’s borders are dark gray lines that are not even consistently colored!
Maybe because the Obama COLB had a different border than those of previous and subsequent COLBs?
Polarik’s claim has been that someone took someone else’s genuine COLB, scrubbed only the original names (leaving everything else alone) and then “clevery” added the Obama information.
However if that was the case, then there would be absolutely no reason to do anything to the borders.
So here again it seems Polarik is making an argument that defeats his previous argument.
k

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July 19, 2008 at 3:55 pm
rayinaus
Techdude also thinks that the Obama forgery crew went to all that trouble as well, but common sense tells us that a real border would be more easily passed-off than a border that no one has ever seen. To do so would be ASKING for detection.
This has all got me thinking — has anyone ever seen Techdude and Polarik in the same room at the same time?
brb in half a day.
July 19, 2008 at 4:48 pm
koyaan
Techdude also thinks that the Obama forgery crew went to all that trouble as well, but common sense tells us that a real border would be more easily passed-off than a border that no one has ever seen. To do so would be ASKING for detection
Yes, some of these theories really expect you to turn Occam’s Razor on its head.
k
July 19, 2008 at 6:29 pm
koyaan
elliewyatt, over on TexasDarlin you wrote:
When I say “cockeyed within the border”, I refer to the appearance of BO’s LEFT lower border motif as centered, and higher up, the diamond motif is off-center. … so the motif pattern is seemingly cockeyed (tilted) within the border edges.
I’m not seeing that.
I started on the lower left corner of the Obama COLB and laid some lines over the lines in the image to duplicate a portion of the hatch. Then I copied the lines and moved them up to the top left corner.
They match up just fine with the lines up there.
Check it out: hatch.jpg
Now, the whole document is cocked a bit to the right (i.e. as if it wasn’t placed in the scanner perfectly straight). But I’m not seeing any cocking of the hatch within the border.
Or are you saying something else?
k
July 20, 2008 at 5:10 am
rayinaus
koyaan wrote:
I’m not seeing that.
I started on the lower left corner of the Obama COLB and laid some lines over the lines in the image to duplicate a portion of the hatch. Then I copied the lines and moved them up to the top left corner.
You’ll see it if you move a piece of the left border over to the right border.
July 20, 2008 at 8:58 am
elliewyatt
Koyaan~
Check this image: http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/Elliewyatt/?action=view¤t=bordersredgreen.jpg
Look only at the LEFT red border. Note that the diamonds are centered.
The clip was taken from a portion of the left border near the bottom of the document.
Now see this image: http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/Elliewyatt/?action=view¤t=leftbordersredgreen.jpg
The diamonds are off-set within the border edge. This is what Polarik was suggesting I would find, and it leads me to speculate that the pattern within the left border is slightly tilted.
July 20, 2008 at 8:59 am
elliewyatt
Shoulda pointed out that the second image is of the left border higher up next to ‘CHILD’S NAME’.